Bill Nye on ... Pantheism? Hegelianism?

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"It's astonishing! So, you and I are made of the same material, as exploded stars. So you and I are at least one of the ways in which the universe knows itself."

If atheism is true, individuals may know the universe, but neither the universe nor anyone speaking more for the universe than individuals (on earth, possibly on other planets) can know it.

On atheistic terms, the universe cannot know anything and on atheistic terms there is no either creator or world soul or universal ruler who can speak on its behalf either. An individual knowing the universe is not the universe knowing itself.

On pantheistic terms, on terms of Hegelianism of a kind C. S. Lewis once believed and then turned his back on, yes, on those terms the universe can know itself, both directly and through individuals.

But - that's not science. It is bad theology, not good natural science. It can hardly even qualify as bad natural science, unless anything blurted out from a scientist's mouth is natural science.

It has nothing to do with how one classifies or mundanely explains phenomena in the universe. It has everything to do with a type of world view which science data as such, with no further processing like philosophy, cannot pronounce itself on.

One of the reasons some have said "if it's a miracle, it isn't science" is, a miracle is possible only on some world views and not others, and science is not supposed to take sides between world views.

Obviously, Bill Nye doesn't share that sentiment, he has no problem championing one world view against another which he thinks scientifically refuted, but also, he doesn't play by it. He blurts out a world view and is still supposed to be a science guy, not required to discuss world views.

Tactic, since his world view is philosophically refuted, for instance by ex-adherent C. S. Lewis, in the book Miracles./HGL